Are dimmable LEDs actually good or just hype?

I love waking up to slowly increasing light, but finding dimmable LEDs that actually work well has been a nightmare. All the ones I’ve tried don’t have the dimming range of incandescents. They dim fine to half or a third brightness, then either shut off or flicker subtly—which is super annoying.

I’m frustrated that incandescents are no longer available because they dimmed perfectly by varying the filament temperature. LEDs, with their forward voltage, seem like they defeat the purpose of dimming.

Does anyone know of LED bulbs that actually dim close to darkness but still have a bright peak? Or could it be my dimmer switch causing the issue? It’s supposed to support dimmable LEDs, but the results aren’t great. Is bad dimming just the reality we live in now?

Update: The issue seems to be with the bulbs. Surprisingly, the Philips dimmable bulbs with their eye comfort tech solved the problem and were cheaper than some others I tried. Most “dimmable” LEDs on the market are awful—flickering and poor dimming range. Honestly, if an LED bulb doesn’t work with a basic dimmer, it shouldn’t be labeled dimmable.

The Philips Warm Glow series works well. It does go a bit uneven at the lowest levels, but it’s more like a shimmer than a flicker, and it’s pleasant. Philips Ultra Definition bulbs are another solid option.

What kind of dimmer do you have? Are there any other loads on the circuit? Instability in the power supply might also cause flickering.

Lian said:
@True
Philips Ultra Definition Warm Glow bulbs are more affordable and dim well with most dimmers. They also have a great warm glow effect at lower levels.

These were my solution! I’m shocked at how much better they are compared to other LEDs I’ve tried.

@True
Commercial Electric dimmers are not great. I’d recommend switching to a Lutron dimmer, paired with Philips or Soraa bulbs. It’ll make a huge difference.

Philips Hue bulbs work really well for this, but they are expensive. The app-controlled dimming is smooth and reliable.

Jordy said:
Philips Hue bulbs work really well for this, but they are expensive. The app-controlled dimming is smooth and reliable.

Why does this have to cost so much? I just want a bulb that dims properly, like incandescent bulbs used to.

@True
Philips Ultra Definition Warm Glow bulbs are more affordable and dim well with most dimmers. They also have a great warm glow effect at lower levels.

Lian said:
@True
Philips Ultra Definition Warm Glow bulbs are more affordable and dim well with most dimmers. They also have a great warm glow effect at lower levels.

While they’re great for consumer-grade bulbs, they don’t actually dim to 0.01%. They’re excellent, but true 0.1% dimming is rare and expensive.

@Jesse
I’ve worked with many high-end systems, and the newer Philips bulbs can dim incredibly low, comparable to professional-grade lighting systems.

The issue is likely phase dimming and budget constraints. You need a control protocol separate from the power supply for smooth dimming. Wireless systems like Meross or Philips Hue are good consumer options. For professional-grade setups, look into 0-10V or Lutron ecosystems. Theater-grade systems like DMX are overkill for home use but are the gold standard for dimming.

You might want to replace your dimmer. Lutron Maestro, Diva, and Caseta are great options. They work well with brands like Feit, GE, and Philips.

Tate said:
You might want to replace your dimmer. Lutron Maestro, Diva, and Caseta are great options. They work well with brands like Feit, GE, and Philips.

The Maestro and Diva dimmers are now available with Caseta tech. They were just released at the end of 2023.

@Eli
That’s awesome! I’m planning my setup for a new house, so I’ll definitely add those to the list. Too bad someone else isn’t paying for it!

Valid question! Dimming LEDs is tricky and has been an ongoing challenge in the industry. High-quality options exist, but they’re often spec-grade. I use USAI warm dim downlights, and they’re fantastic, but they’re pricey.

@Eli
How expensive are we talking?

Keegan said:
@Eli
How expensive are we talking?

Around $200–$350 per downlight, depending on the configuration. They dim down to about 3% with a Caseta dimmer and 1% with higher-end systems.

@Eli
I get that, but on principle, I’m not spending a ton of money on light bulbs.

True said:
@Eli
I get that, but on principle, I’m not spending a ton of money on light bulbs.

Totally fair. Just know that perfect dimming with LEDs often requires a bit of investment. It’s a limitation of combining analog tech (old dimmers) with newer digital tech (LEDs).

Philips Hue bulbs dim very well, though they’re pricey. If you’re set on incandescents, you can still find some online.

Vale said:
Philips Hue bulbs dim very well, though they’re pricey. If you’re set on incandescents, you can still find some online.

I’ve been hesitant to use incandescents because my light housing has a damaged heat reflector. Check my update—better LEDs solved my issue!